I guess I’m not the typical FreeBSD user, because I do not enjoy using ports much. Mainly this is because I also use it as a desktop. On a powerful server or workstation, ports is fine. It’s super flexible and everything works quite well. And kudos to all people working on updating and making improvements to it.
However, using ports on my laptop really makes me cry. Why? If I want to install a port, I have to keep a ports tree on my laptop and actually compile everything. Since I have a pretty weak laptop in terms of processing power, this takes ages. But of course, I can install packages! The thing with packages, however, is that it works really well for a release, but when upgrading later on, I always end up in trouble if I try to use the official FreeBSD packages.
First of all, the package sets following each release gets outdated quickly. Second, if I want to update my packages without using ports I get into trouble. There is no real package upgrade tool that I know of, but I can install portupgrade if I want to, because it has a fancy -PP options, telling it to use packages only. But there are issues with this: portupgrade seems to require that you have a ports tree to work. In addition, when you have the ports tree, portupgrade will look for packages matching the exact version that is in ports, and if the package server does not happen to have the same ports tree as you (only one commit updating a port can break this), it fails.
So what is the solution for me, besides writing a pkg_upgrade? Having a ports tinderbox on a different host to build packages for my laptop (I could use official 8-stable packages for instance, but there always seem to be some packages missing, and some not built). And the upgrade procedure? Move /usr/local and /var/db/pkg away, and reinstall packages. It works ok, but looking at how well this can be handled on other systems, it’s a bit silly :/ So, maybe I’ll just have to look closer at the pkg_upgrade idea :)
So, on to the constructive part of this rant^Wpost. There is no need to change everything for this to work better. A pkg_upgrade tool can probably reuse a lot from the other pkgtools, such as version checking and dependency checking. However, the hard part is knowing what version to get from the servers. Luckily, the Latest/ directory contains unversioned tarballs of packages that can be examined to get their version. But again, this requires one to get the packages first in order to examine it. Not very bandwidth-friendly. I think a simple approach would be to keep a version list together with the packages, which could be used by pkg_upgrade to check if any new version of a package exists (much like INDEX in /usr/ports I guess). I haven’t thought about the hardest question yet: how to handle dependencies and package renaming, but I would think one could allow specifying this in the same file.
Update: As i was working against my local package repository, I did not notice that the official package repositories actually contains the INDEX file from the ports tree where the packages are built.
I also think the package building procedures could be changed, because somehow, there are always packages missing (at least several gnome packages last time I tried). I do not know much about this though, but I would advocate for a system where a package was rebuilt on all architectures and supported releases once a commit was made to the affecting port.
There, I feel better now :)